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French Infantry Loadout Possible Fixes

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In-game there are a number of issues regarding the French loadouts, in this post I will be detailing what could be done to fix it in order to make it more accurate, using infantry combat manuals and officers manuals of the time.

Adjusted Loadouts for the infantry section:

1914

Officer: 

1-  Modele 1892 Revolver,  the Grenade modele 1914, Epee modele 1882, Jumelles

2- Modele 1873 Revolver, 2x Grenade modele 1914, Epee modele 1882, Jumelles

(Note: France did not have smoke grenades prior to 1916, that I can find at least)

Assault: 

1- Epee baionnette modele 1886, 3x Grenade modele 1914, 

2- Modele 1873 Revolver, Epee baionnette modele 1886, 2x grenade modele 1914

 

Grenadier:

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, 3x Grenade modele 1914

(Note: the VB grenade launcher was not invented until 1916)

 

Machine Gunner:

(Note: In theory this class should not exist for France in 1914, but for Balance ill let the devs choose what they want to do with this class)

 

Medic: 

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Medic Kit

2- Revolver Modele 1892, Epee baionnette modele 1886, Medic Kit

 

Rifleman:
1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Epee baionnette modele 1886, Ammo bag, Sandbags

 

1915

Officer: 

1-  Modele 1892 Revolver,  Grenade F1 with percussion fuse, Epee modele 1882, Jumelles

2- Ruby pistol, 2x Grenade F1 with percussion fuse, Epee modele 1882, Jumelles

 

Assault: 

1- Poignard coutrot modele 1915, 3x Grenade F1 with percussion fuse, 

2- Modele 1873 Revolver, Poignard coutrot modele 1915, 2x grenade F1 with percussion fuse

 

Grenadier:

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, 3x Grenade F1 with Percussion Fuse

 

Machine Gunner:

1- Chauchat, Ruby Pistol, Poignard Coutrot modele 1915

 

Medic: 

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Medic Kit

2- Ruby pistol, Poignard Coutrot modele 1915, Medic Kit

 

Rifleman:
1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Poignard Coutrot modele 1915, Ammo bag, Sandbags

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Poignard Coutrot modele 1915, Ammo bag, Sandbags

 

1916

Officer: 

1-  Modele 1892 Revolver,  Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

2- Ruby pistol, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

3- M1911, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

 

Assault: 

1- Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 3x Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, 2x Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade fumigene AB mle 1916

 

Grenadier:

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93 with VB Rifle grenade Launcher, Grenade F1 with Billant fuse

 

Machine Gunner:

1- Chauchat, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur"

 

Medic: 

1- Berther modele 1907/15, Medic Kit

2- Ruby pistol, Poignard modele 1916 "le vengeur", Medic Kit

 

Rifleman:
1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Poignard mle 1916 , Ammo bag, Sandbags

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Poignard mle 1916, Ammo bag, Sandbags

 

1917

Officer: 

1-  Modele 1892 Revolver,  Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

2- Ruby pistol, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

3- M1911, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

 

Assault: 

1- Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 3x Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, 2x Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade fumigene AB mle 1916

 

Grenadier:

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93 with VB Rifle grenade Launcher, Grenade F1 with Billant fuse

 

Machine Gunner:

1- Chauchat, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur"

 

Medic: 

1- Berther modele 1907/15, Medic Kit

2- Ruby pistol, Poignard modele 1916 "le vengeur", Medic Kit

 

Rifleman:
1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Poignard mle 1916 , Ammo bag, Sandbags

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Poignard mle 1916, Ammo bag, Sandbags

3- RSC Modele 1917, French nail, Ammo bags, sandbags (x2 per Section)

 

(Note: There should be only 1-2 RSC's per Section, to reflect how it was issued in the military, with only the best marksmen of the Section receiving it.)

 

1918

Officer: 

1-  Modele 1892 Revolver,  Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

2- Ruby pistol, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

3- M1911, 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916, Jumelles

 

Assault: 

1- Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 3x Grenade F1 with Billant Fuse, 2x Grenade Fumigene AB mle 1916

2- Mousqueton Berthier Mle 1916, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur", 2x Grenade F1 with Billant fuse, Grenade fumigene AB mle 1916

 

Grenadier:

1- Lebel modele 1886 M93 with VB Rifle grenade Launcher, Grenade F1 with Billant fuse

 

Machine Gunner:

1- Chauchat, Ruby Pistol, Poignard modele 1916  "Le Vengeur"

 

Medic: 

1- Berther modele 1907/15, Medic Kit

2- Ruby pistol, Poignard modele 1916 "le vengeur", Medic Kit

 

Rifleman:
1- Lebel modele 1886 M93, Poignard mle 1916 , Ammo bag, Sandbags

2- Berthier modele 1907/15, Poignard mle 1916, Ammo bag, Sandbags

3- RSC Modele 1917, French nail, Ammo bags, sandbags  (x2 per Section)

 

If you need me to clarify something, please dont hesitate to let me know!

 

Images:

Grenade Modele 1914 

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To learn more http://thebignote.com/2021/07/25/french-hand-grenades-of-the-great-war-part-one-grenade-modele-1914/

 

Modele 1873 Revolver

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To learn more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAS_1873_revolver

 

 

Grenade F1 with Percussion Fuse

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To learn more http://passioncompassion1418.com/decouvertes/english_grenades_fr.html

 

Poignard Coutrot Mle 1915

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Grenade Fumigene AB modele 1916

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(Note: it has the same Billant fuse as the Grenade F1)

 

Poignard Mle 1916 

 

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(Note: the model on the soldier is in the game already, although bizarrely its on the british assault)

 

 

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1 hour ago, [IR.74] Albert von Fistus said:

Nice research but when the smokes get removed (pre 1916) all should factions shouldn't have than smoke grenades.

Well I only did this if the devs wanted to go full historical. there can be exceptions made for balance ofc. 

there is also the question that the french use a british smoke grenade when we had our own (as demonstrated in this post)

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